I had gotten this post I did last year in a FB memory last week. I was going to repost it and post it here but I had gotten really sick and just kind of forgot. Over the weekend I started seeing more and more likes and comments coming from this post from last year. I find it funny that something that has been shoved to the back of the closet for a year has found its way back out to the front of the closet. When I posted this originally I had gotten good and bad feedback. There were some who agreed with me and had questions from these Torah/Hebrew Roots people and the T/H Roots got pissed and said I was lying and blah blah blah. In the meantime they answered none of the questions I put out there and they were silent (other than their accusations). After you read this the next question you will need answered is to define “Torah”. I think the article below is one of the best write ups about what Torah actually means. With that said, here is the article from November 24th, 2016.
START-> I have been sitting on this for awhile but I think its finally time to share my thoughts on this. Take it as you may.
Okay. So you say keep the Torah. The question is this, by definition what does keeping the Torah mean? Do you keep the Ten Commandments or do you keep the 613 Commandments or do you keep whatever applies to you at that specific time in your life? The biggest argument today for Torah Keepers is that they keep the Sabbath, they don’t eat pork (and shrimp) and they keep the appointed feasts. I get that. But by definition isn’t keeping the law, keeping the whole of the law? Or did Jesus sum it up with love? Will you keep his commandments if you love like Jesus? Isn’t that automatic? There seems to be a difference in opinion of what the definition is of keeping the Torah. I believe it’s keeping the whole of the law (if that’s even possible) and your household should do the same. You break one commandment then you have broken all of them. There is no wavering in any literal commandment (if you are to keep them) because they could all be applicable in your life or someone in your household.
With that said, no one who claims to keep the Torah who can call themselves Christians or Nazarenes or the Way or whatever it may be, sacrifices any animals. If you do then you are in fact saying what Jesus did on the cross isn’t and wasn’t good enough for you personally. This animal sacrifice was part of the law right? Or did Jesus just fulfill this particular law and left alone everything else? Right off the get go, you aren’t keeping the whole of the law if you aren’t or someone else in your place, isn’t performing sacrifices. And if you are then you are saying the blood of Jesus was not good enough for you.
So let’s talk about the three we always hear about. Sabbath, dietary and feasts. The feasts issue isn’t really an issue, I don’t have a problem recognizing these feasts. Although do you recognize an Orthodox Jewish dinner for Passover. And is the lamb you eat kosher according to the law? Is it slaughtered by someone who keeps the law or a part of the priesthood? I recognize that Jesus is my Passover and I think of what He did for me. Setting a place for Elijah isn’t going to make Jesus or Elijah for that matter (no, Elijah isn’t coming back…sorry), come back any sooner. The problem I do have is our calendar in general. It has gotten so screwed up its hard to tell what day is what. Its the same as the Sabbath. Do you keep it from sundown Friday to sundown Saturday or at midnight to midnight on Saturday? Shouldn’t everyone be of one accord? I mean if we are all going to keep the law there shouldn’t be any discrepancies right? Not unless of course we only keep the law for how it applies to us specifically, and its not necessarily convenient to keep it when someone else does. Do you see how ridiculous this argument sounds? Do you not have an issue keeping Sabbath on Saturn day, the day for Remphan, while knowing all along the seventh day got moved around somewhere? I hear that argument a lot. “We only keep what laws are applied to us at that specific time”. That’s not keeping the whole of the law. And before you say it, I know…Your not a woman so you can’t keep the menstrual laws BUT your wife can if she lives under you. And she should if your household and herself is keeping the law.
So let’s talk about your wives menstrual time of the month for a second. Does she leave the “camp” (house) for seven days so she won’t defile you or anything else in the camp (house)? Numbers 5:2 “Command the children of Israel, that they put out of the camp every leper, and every one that hath an issue, and whosoever is defiled by the dead”. Or do you just disregard this commandment because its 2016 and we don’t honor that commandment? Or if you don’t recognize this commandment then how should the husband become clean from defiling himself by sleeping in the same bed as her. Then he has to be separated for seven days. After all of this, on the eighth day they have to take two doves to the priest. Who does this anymore? No one. And I’m assuming your not mixing fabrics and you have pure linen sheets? And speaking of linens, you don’t or your family doesn’t wear any mixed fabrics right. Its an abomination to mix wool, cotton, polyester and linen right? Your not an abomination lying in bed with your blood stricken wife on the Sabbath are you? Do you see how ridiculous this all is? Are you keeping the Torah if you are breaking one of these commandments? NO. Uou break one then you break then all.
Let’s turn to the Sabbath. What do you do to keep the Sabbath Holy? Do you rest and then watch guys carry around a pigskin. Is that sanctifying and keeping the Sabbath holy? Do you pick up your Bible that may or may not be associated with a pigs skin cover? Have you check to make sure your Bible and chair you sit in is kosher according to the law? You wouldn’t want to sit in a pig chair right? Oh wait, I’m just bearing false witness right? I hear that a lot from those who can’t answer these simple yes or no questions. I’m only bearing false witness if you are keeping ALL of these commandments and if you are, well that’s my issue then. So the Sabbath, when does it start? New moon, full moon, first sliver of the moon? And if it’s the New moon is that the same New moon on the Gregorian calender that they tell us is the New moon? Or is it the literal New moon on the second day of a 3 day new moon which is about 2-3 days before the Gregorian calenders New moon? And do you have two witnesses like during the time of Jesus that says the calender you follow is the continuation of those days? Because then your calender would be right on, correct? But according to you, you are keeping the Sabbath by keeping it Holy right? Is being on Facebook keeping it Holy and considered rest?
Now let’s talk dietary laws. I understand that pig is dirty, shrimp are bottom feeders and I don’t eat certain animals and birds for obvious reasons. That’s not my issue. Do you realize the majority of food you eat has some sort of pork byproduct in it? Or maybe it’s no big deal that HEK 293 (aborted fetus cells) is in just about everything. I suggest you read my article here on this subject. And just to be safe, you never eat at KFC (or Pepsi owned companies) right? Because if you did then your eating chicken that is Halal (Shariah compatible) not kosher. Yep, blessed in the name of Allah just for the consuming public. And who knows what other companies and restaurants who are doing this. I’m assuming a lot of them. Or maybe you grow your own food and kill your own livestock (which is fine), so you shouldn’t have any problems. But are your seeds from your own stash or did you buy them? Because if you did, well, they are more than likely going to be GMO. And oh yeah, the beef you eat is being injected and being fed GMO corn. Everything is free game, literally.
Let’s talk about Leviticus 19 for a second. These are your basic laws regarding social conduct. Here are some of the basic laws. God tells Moses by starting with “ye shall be Holy”. What does that mean? Does it mean you get a cool powder blue shirt with a “ye shall be holy” logo on the front with your tallits hanging from underneath it? Does it mean you put קְדֹשִׁ֣ים tattooed on your arm? No it means to be holy because the Lord our GOD is Holy. God is not your errand boy so you can do as you please. Being holy does not mean “striving to keep the law” and not doing it. You either do it or you don’t. Let’s move on. I’m not going to go through all of these but just touch on a few. Don’t steal, lie or defraud your neighbor. Check. Don’t hate your brother in your heart, curse the dead or put a stumbling block before the blind. Check. Don’t mix your cattle, seed or linens. Che…wait. How can I even be sure I’m buying meat, vegetables and clothes that aren’t doing this? Could I even afford to do this or will God provide if I attempt to do it? I’ve heard the latter before. Now that’s faith like moving mountains right there. The kind of faith these Torah keepers don’t care about because they can’t work and strive for it. Can you see the irony?
Let’s move on. Hopefully you have never layed carnally with a married christian woman while you were under the law. Then she would have to be scourged. Calm down, you can put your painted rocks down, she isn’t to be put to death. But you would need a ram for a trespassing offering. But no one under the law has ever done that right? Now concerning vegetables and fruit. If your a farmer or gardener, you did wait 5 years before you ate your harvest? Or if your not growing your own stuff, do the people or store you get your stuff from, are they doing this? I highly doubt it. But you don’t have a issue going to Albertson’s and buying produce that isn’t according to the law? And blood…you don’t eat rare steaks or prime rib right? And your positively 100% sure when your going out to eat that your meat isn’t sacrificed to idols or it’s not Halal when buying it from the store? If your sure of that congratulations. You still have an issue with where the meat came from.
Now I’m assuming all you Torah keepers have beards too. Leviticus 19:28 “Ye shall not round the corners of your heads, neither shalt thou mar the corners of thy beard.” This verse is assuming men automatically have beards. Most Christian men nowadays don’t have beards. So why not? You gotta have one in order to not cut it. Leviticus 19:28 “Ye shall not make any cuttings in your flesh for the dead, nor print any marks upon you: I am the LORD.” Almost everyone nowadays do have tattoos, especially Christians. There argument is that it’s not for the dead so then it’s ok to get them. Christians who don’t keep the Torah have the same line of defense. Don’t you know that your body is a temple and you are to make yourself a living sacrifice? Your not to defile it or are you? I guess it’s ok to get the cool Hebrew words and verses marked on your body and follow the ways of the world. So they want their worldly freedom but want to keep the law. That makes complete sense right?
I could go on but I’ll stop there. The last verse I will mention is Leviticus 20. 1 “And the LORD spake unto Moses, saying 2 Again, thou shalt say to the children of Israel, Whosoever he be of the children of Israel, or of the strangers that sojourn in Israel, that giveth any of his seed unto Molech; he shall surely be put to death: the people of the land shall stone him with stones.” Anyone of Israel or part of Israel who gives their seed or children to Molech, should be stoned by the people. If you are to keep the law then I would expect Torah keepers to go to their local Planned Parethood and stone the Christians who have abortions. But they don’t. And why? Because that would be murder and it would be completely ridiculous. I do know there are some who would love to be able to get away with this type of thing. They will welcome the seven Noahide Laws and maybe even like Shariah Law.
So the bottom line is this. When asking what laws someone should keep, they can never agree with what the next guy says. No one can agree to anything anymore when asked what is to be kept. Its the basic answer. Don’t eat pork, keep the Sabbath and keep the festivals. That’s all I ever hear. Everything else I guess is irrelevant but they will tell you they keep the whole law. I don’t think anyone knows by definition what it actually means to keep the law. I will post an article below that will help you on this whole debate and situation. I think it really sheds some light on this subject.
Jesus told us from His own mouth what commandments the law is hung from. Love. This is something these people don’t show when debating people. Instead they are condescending, divisive, rude and disrespectful. And out of all the days they want to act like this is on the Sabbath. Go figure. That’s how they think they keep it Holy I guess. So “trying” or “striving” to keep any of the law is already failing. And no, this is not a license to go ahead and sin. Your righteousness is found in Jesus not yourself. Yours and my righteousness is nothing but filthy menstrual rags and this is one reason why Jesus went outside the camp to redeem us. It’s called grace.
Check this out. I couldn’t have done this study better than this man did. It explains a lot as to why there is a mess around this whole debate.
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